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Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:44:00 -
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I am a 5 months old player and I have seen many scam going on in Eve online. I have today been scam 300mil isk. To make that money, I had been playing 10 hrs a day for the last 3 weeks. I know many players can make more but as a new player, this is what i can only manage.
I saw a buy order in the market for an item 2,000 units for a minimum order of 2,000unit at 200kisk each. I purchase all the items in the market and when i select sell, the price still indicate 200k isk but when I confirm it, the buy order disappear. For that 1 transaction, I lost 300mil.
Indeed, I was con not only by the player but by CCP, because the player I purchase most item was not even online so the question is how he to cancel the buy order? But since the order disappear, make me believe that it was program to perform such by CCP themselves. I refuse to believe that any player would spent 24/7 and ever second to watch the screen and to cancel the buy order and log out at a 2 second interval. Moreover, the player which I purchase most of the item was not online, so question is how did he cancel his buy order offline? Unless it was programed.
Looking into the entire Eve, there is many scam going on that in any other games you will not see because all this loophole has been covered by the developer.
For example, we all know about PLEX scam that has been going on where you think you buy a Plex cheap in contract but you actually have to give back a plex and loss the 320mil (standard plex con rate). The question, why did CCP allow the same identical item to be allow to post as a Buy/Sell contract? Meaning, you can post that you selling an item in exchange you want the same item back. Not even in real life such system exist. Allowing minimum quantity up to a rediculess amount is another part of program that only CCP allowing it to take place. And many more scam.
Reason of me believing that CCP is the one scamming is that in such players will be force to buy more Plex or renew their account in real money. Why make us believe that we can actually make money mining/trading/manufacturing to buy a Plex where chances you get con at end of the day.
Many of my friends who actually get a Plex was totally into ratting not into to buying and selling ****.
Other than CCP is the real scammer behind all those player name, there is no other reason why CCP allow scam to take place, in the 1st place. They have the objective, the motive and the real benefit behind all those scam.
I though i was 100mil more to go to get a Plex in 2 days before my accounts expire but I was wrong, dead wrong. So no, I will not be able to buy a Plex.
Will I be paying in real money to renew my account? The question I ask myself is why? Why do I want to continue to play a game that instead of enjoying myself I get grief, I get con and scam only to feel unhappy, angry and a complete idiot. Yes I agree (no trolling require) I am a idiot to allow myself to pay real money and feel unhappy about it. This USD$14.95 I could get in a game when I can feel better achievement and pleasure.
For all those real players who are not CCP staff or part of their organization, I don't feel angry at you even if you are a scammer or griefer. It is CCP that I should be angry about. Just like in real life, when you have been rob and the police watch you being rob, instead of helping you, he tell you thats real life mechanic, so get over it. I would be extremely angry at the police more than the robber. For all you know, the robber has already team up with the police in the 1st place. Just like what CCP is telling you that this is game mechanic but they are the one who create this mechanic.
I am positive that CCP will not feel anything losing 1 player as myself nor would Eve stop it's cycle. But this is one of many reasons why it is hard for Eve to get new players. At the end of the day, it handful of people all with multiple alt surrounded by CCP scammer alt that would only exist in the game.
I wish the remaining players or those that would remain in the near future goodbye and thanks for showing me it is not worth playing Eve as long as you would cause it would be idiotic wouldn't it? Hence I have save alot of money and this money will be spent on game that is more worth my attention and where I could gain pleasure instead of any bad emotion.
1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :) |
Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 19:52:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:You sir have fallen for the typical "Trade Margin" scam. And no CCP is not behind it.
CCP allows it because EVE is supposed to be a universe where pricks and a-holes feel at home.
If ccp really wanted to scam people they'd make isk disapear not allow people to rip each other off.
If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?
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Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:08:00 -
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Unfortunately, this Margin Scam is that scammer use the margin skills and other mechanics to scam us our isk. But all this mechanics has no real benefits to players other than player who intend to scam. So why the mechanics the 1st place? So that CCP could scam us without us pushing the blame to them and all to those players (who no1 is sure who it is? Could be CCP themselves) . Because if any real buyer, why would he place a buy order when he doesn't have the amount of money to pay in the 1st place, unless he has no intention of fulfilling the buy order. Thus the mechanic is for the sole purpose of scamming. |
Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:11:00 -
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As I have stated, unless someone can explain to me how the order was cancel when the player is not online, then I would believe that CCP is not involve. And if it is due to margin, then again, the mechanics was was the sole purpose of scamming. How then CCP is not involve cos they create the mechanic in the 1st place. |
Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:20:00 -
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You don't seems to understand I think. Yes I do know now that this is a Margin Scam, but the Margin scam uses the help of the Margin Skill to perform such scam. However, no true buyer would bother training that skill unless they want to false a buy order. Thus the Margin Skills should be know as Scam Skill instead. My point is that when CCP introduce this skill, they promote or assist scammer a new line of scamming. So they are responsible just like how I explain the robber and the police story, unless you didn't care to read it and just busy posting your insults. |
Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:33:00 -
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That why I say, why play a game where you get scam every corner? Some say that this is like real life, I beg the different, because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright. I am looking for a game that I can enjoy, pve or pvp. But definitely not a game that would make you emotional angry every now and then you get grief or scam. Why play a game then if the game would only make you unhappy?
Yeah, Margin scam, Plex scam and the whole lot of different scam that evolve Eve daily. So is that all what Eve is all about? For the last 2 months I had been scam by **** alliance where I have to contribute all my PI and mine 5hrs of ice each day where promise of payment for my services but eventually nothing and my badger got blow up by blue cos the person wants his killmail to look good and alliance did nothing. I spent another 2 weeks moving my stuff out and settling down from null sec to back to high sec...just to con again.
Eve is all about nothing but being con or go con some1 else :(
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Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:35:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:lol, new players trying to market PvP
learn to play before you make these ridiculous accusations.
So you expect everyone to read every single post in to the forum before you actually play the game? You dumb enough to shove this off |
Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:40:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Alfred Lim wrote:That why I say, why play a game where you get scam every corner? Some say that this is like real life, I beg the different, because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright. I am looking for a game that I can enjoy, pve or pvp. But definitely not a game that would make you emotional angry every now and then you get grief or scam. Why play a game then if the game would only make you unhappy?
Yeah, Margin scam, Plex scam and the whole lot of different scam that evolve Eve daily. So is that all what Eve is all about? For the last 2 months I had been scam by P.I.S.S. alliance where I have to contribute all my PI and mine 5hrs of ice each day where promise of payment for my services but eventually nothing and my badger got blow up by blue cos the person wants his killmail to look good and alliance did nothing. I spent another 2 weeks moving my stuff out and settling down from null sec to back to high sec...just to con again.
Eve is all about nothing but being con or go con some1 else :( CCP can't fix stupid, sorry.
So when you get rob in real world, you accept it when the authorities tells you they can't fix weak cos you are one? You speak like you are CCP....are you MotherFuxker? |
Alfred Lim
Order of the Ebon Hand
The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.22 20:44:00 -
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I insult no one in my post, I expect the same.I appreciate those who explain kindly but those who thinks your old timer in the game that you know it all and that I should take all your insult just make me sick and make yourself even dumber than i was. |
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